# VPN vs Tor Clearnet vs Tor Hidden Services: What's The Difference?
VPN: PC>################################>VPN SERVER>---------------------------------------------------------->SITE data is encrypted: generally faster than tor. ! https required for encryption from e

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03-14-2023, 09:51 PM
VPN:
PC>################################>VPN SERVER>---------------------------------------------------------->SITE
data is encrypted: generally faster than tor. ! https required for encryption from exit point to site !
encryption requires cooperation from both sides
TOR CLEARNET:
PC>#######>NODE1>#########>NODE2>########>NODE3>------------------------------------------------------->SITE
randomly chosen nodes. Data is encrypted. ! https required for encryption from exit point to site !
TOR HIDDEN SERVICE:
PC>#######>NODE1>#########>NODE2>########>NODE3>#############################>.ONION SITE
end to end encrypted from tor client to tor .onion client

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03-14-2023, 11:25 PM
Nice thread, here is more details
VPN:
You -> VPN server -> Website
In this case, you put all your trust in the VPN server to properly encrypt your traffic and not log your IP
It's also generally faster than anonymity networks such as Tor due to fewer hops
Tor:
You -> Guard relay -> Middle node -> Exit node -> Clearnet website
In this case you are using Tor but a malicious exit-node can potentially snoop on your traffic and do MiTM attack like downgrading your connection from HTTPS to HTTP
It's more anonymous than a VPN, that's all.
Tor (Hidden .onion services):
You -> Guard relay -> Middle node -> Exit node -> introduction point <- Exit node <- Middle node <- Guard node <- Server
This is the optimal scenario and is the reason why hidden services are more secure, in that example traffic is end-to-end encrypted between the Server and You thus, preventing MiTM attacks.
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05-12-2023, 12:58 AM
encryption requires
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