# Fraud AMA (1)
Hello. I am very experienced in carding and fraud. I have been around the game for ~6 years now. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have! Thanks.

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04-08-2023, 09:48 PM
Hello.
I am very experienced in carding and fraud. I have been around the game for ~6 years now. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have!
Thanks.
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04-08-2023, 09:51 PM

> envoyuser1 Wrote: Hello.
> I am very experienced in carding and fraud. I have been around the game for ~6 years now. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have!
> Thanks.

I get a lot of private messages on how to cash out PayPal accounts, do you have experience with that? maybe a detailed post on all ways you could form A to Z would be very helpful
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04-08-2023, 09:54 PM
i wanna make some money whats the best way for me i want to get into bank logs but they are quite expensive. I tried this goofy cash app method it didnt work did i do something wrong or is it fake?
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04-08-2023, 10:09 PM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2023, 10:14 PM by envoyuser1.)

> prince97 Wrote:

> > envoyuser1 Wrote: Hello.
> > I am very experienced in carding and fraud. I have been around the game for ~6 years now. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have!
> > Thanks.

> I get a lot of private messages on how to cash out PayPal accounts, do you have experience with that? maybe a detailed post on all ways you could form A to Z would be very helpful

Yes, I have experience with PayPal.
The best way to cash them out is to:
1. Have full access to account (do not buy from a vendor) which means you spread malware to get full access to computer of PayPal account owner.
2. You can use the browser of PayPal owner and cashout at any payment processer that accepts PayPal, but match the transaction history of PayPal account. If the account is making $50 transactions on a daily basis then you can make $50 transactions every 1 - 3 days.
PayPal often limits your account if it notices suspicious transactions, so if you follow this process you should be successful.

> AarauIshSzene Wrote: i wanna make some money whats the best way for me i want to get into bank logs but they are quite expensive. I tried this goofy cash app method it didnt work did i do something wrong or is it fake?

Fraud is a game of money. If you do not have access to enough capital to get started then you will never be successful.
Bank logs are a good way to make money, but require a good method which is trial-and-error (lots of people waste money trying new methods of cashout, so they will never share their methods for free or until the method is burnt).
Stick to the 9-5 for now and acquire enough capital to get into fraud. ($1k-3k is good starting point).
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04-08-2023, 10:15 PM

> envoyuser1 Wrote: Yes, I have experience with PayPal.
> The best way to cash them out is to:
> 1. Have full access to account (do not buy from a vendor) which means you spread malware to get full access to computer of PayPal account owner.
> 2. You can use the browser of PayPal owner and cashout at any payment processer that accepts PayPal, but match the transaction history of PayPal account. If the account is making $50 transactions on a daily basis then you can make $50 transactions every 1 - 3 days.
> PayPal often limits your account if it notices suspicious transactions, so if you follow this process you should be successful

And how can one use the browser of the paypal owner without them seeing? HVNC?
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04-08-2023, 10:19 PM

> prince97 Wrote:

> > envoyuser1 Wrote: Yes, I have experience with PayPal.
> > The best way to cash them out is to:
> > 1. Have full access to account (do not buy from a vendor) which means you spread malware to get full access to computer of PayPal account owner.
> > 2. You can use the browser of PayPal owner and cashout at any payment processer that accepts PayPal, but match the transaction history of PayPal account. If the account is making $50 transactions on a daily basis then you can make $50 transactions every 1 - 3 days.
> > PayPal often limits your account if it notices suspicious transactions, so if you follow this process you should be successful

> And how can one use the browser of the paypal owner without them seeing? HVNC?

Yes, hidden browser works great. You can also wait until owner goes to sleep or away from their computer.
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04-09-2023, 07:15 AM

> envoyuser1 Wrote: Hello.
> I am very experienced in carding and fraud. I have been around the game for ~6 years now. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have!
> Thanks.

Hi! Is carding truly dead as everyone says it is and what kind of fraud should noobs start out with? For bank logs where can you find the best vendors?
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04-10-2023, 02:02 AM

> Omien Wrote:

> > envoyuser1 Wrote: Hello.
> > I am very experienced in carding and fraud. I have been around the game for ~6 years now. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have!
> > Thanks.

> Hi! Is carding truly dead as everyone says it is and what kind of fraud should noobs start out with? For bank logs where can you find the best vendors?

Carding is not dead, but it is a lot more challenging today than it was 5 years ago.
It doesn't matter what type of fraud you start out with, but all fraud requires some sort of capital to get started. I'm not sure what's 'trendy' with fraud nowadays as I'm not as active as I use to be, but loans were hitting during Covid times.
You can purchase bank logs on any of the markets, but it is best to obtain logs of you own.
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04-10-2023, 03:43 AM
What would I need to obtain my own logs? I am also pretty exp in real world work but new to the log game
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04-12-2023, 10:12 PM

> workin Wrote: What would I need to obtain my own logs? I am also pretty exp in real world work but new to the log game

VPS to host malware, a malware to steal credentials and a crypter so that malware doesn't get detected by anti virus.
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